Is Circumcision Wrong?
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It’s a tough decision that every American mother of a baby boy has to make: to circumcise or not circumcise? Opponents claim that it’s akin to mutilation. Proponents cite studies showing the health benefits of circumcision. Still others have strong cultural ties to the procedure. Daphne Brogdon of Cool Mom asks the panelists, “What do you think about circumcision?”
Did you (or will you) circumcise your son? Why or why not? Leave your comments below and start the discussion!
Is Circumcision Wrong?
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Comment by burntsienna on Feb 16 2010 11:00:38:
Would you let a doctor cut your baby girl? In this country people actually fight to stop that kind of mutilation in other parts of the world yet its ok to do the same to a boy.
And, sexual sensation is reduced when the foreskin is removed, just the same as it when a girl is cut. That part of the argument in this video really bothered me because it was clear that woman did not know what she was talking about.
Circumcision is an old, out of date custom and it needs to stop. I’ve actually heard the argument in support of it that goes “but I want my son to look like everyone else.” Really? That’s why you’re mutilating your son? What a terrible reason!
Comment by sarah on Feb 16 2010 11:41:41:
There is no way I would allow an non-medical mutilation of my sons man-hood! I assure you that he is fully intact, the way god intended him to be. I cannot even begin to understand the incompetence and un-informed choices that people who mutilate their childern by way of circumcision are making. It has to be someone that either is EXTREEMLY un-informed or that is completly ingnorant on the whole subject. THIS IS NOT MEDICALLY NECESSARY AND IS WRONGFUL MUTILATION! THIS IS WRONG!!
Comment by lori on Feb 17 2010 12:22:46:
this is what The Commonwealth of Massachusetts
http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/senate/186/st01/st01777.htm
Except as provided in subsection (e), whoever knowingly circumcises, excises, cuts, or mutilates the whole or any part of the labia majora, labia minora, clitoris, vulva, breast, nipple, foreskin, glans, testicle, penis, ambiguous genitalia, hermaphroditic genitalia, or genital organs of another person who has not attained the age of 18 years or on any non-consenting adult; or whoever prematurely and forcibly retracts the penile or clitoral prepuce of another person who has not attained the age of 18 years or any non-consenting adult; or whoever knowingly assists with or facilitates any of these acts; or whoever arranges, plans, aids, abets, counsels, facilitates, or procures a genital mutilation operation on another person who has not attained the age of 18 years or any non-consenting adult shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 14 years, or both.
Comment by Keely on Feb 17 2010 02:33:20:
I couldn’t stand the the thought of doing that to my brand new baby. I went with my gut and now I have a happy heathy two year old son. His penis has never been an issue again!
Comment by Kristie on Feb 17 2010 03:12:38:
I have a 5 yr old and a 2 year old boy and I didn’t circumcise either of them. I am a Registered Nurse and I’ve seen circumcisions enough to know they are medically unnecessary and painful. Many infants still don’t receive proper anesthesia beforehand. Some doctors say they will give it, but they only use sugar coated pacifiers. Trust me, that’s not pain relief.
I have a good friend who is Jewish. She did circumcise her son via religious ceremony but even that was difficult for both her and her son. She doesn’t necessarily regret it, but she did admit there was no way she’d put her son through that if it weren’t for her religious beliefs.
Most babies do okay during and after their circumcision but I’ve seen a few go terribly wrong, including one baby almost bleeding to death. Again, it is rare, but why risk it if not necessary?
The only real advantage of circumcising a baby boy is it reduces the chance of urinary infection, but boys rarely get UTI’s anyway. A girl is more likely to get a uti and both genders can be easily treated with antibiotics.
Neither of my sons nor any non-circumcised son of my friends has ever had any trouble with their penis, but I do have one friend whose son had too much skin removed with his circ. I feel it medically prudent to just leave the baby as he is born, including his foreskin.
You’ll probably get a wide range of opinions on this matter, though. Circumcision is a hotly debated topic within the parenting community!
Comment by Mark Lyndon on Feb 17 2010 03:26:35:
Good for you. You might also want to check out the following:
Canadian Paediatric Society
http://www.cps.ca/english/statements/fn/fn96-01.htm
“Recommendation: Circumcision of newborns should not be routinely performed.”
http://www.caringforkids.cps.ca/pregnancy&babies/circumcision.htm
“Circumcision is a ‘non-therapeutic’ procedure, which means it is not medically necessary.”
“After reviewing the scientific evidence for and against circumcision, the CPS does not recommend routine circumcision for newborn boys. Many paediatricians no longer perform circumcisions.”
Royal Australasian College of Physicians
http://www.racp.edu.au/index.cfm?objectid=B5610716-9E3E-6C97-A8D87880FD002E3B
“After extensive review of the literature, the Paediatrics & Child Health Division of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians has concluded that there is no medical reason for routine newborn male circumcision.”
(almost all the men responsible for this statement will be circumcised themselves, as the male circumcision rate in Australia in 1950 was about 90%. “Routine” circumcision is now *banned* in public hospitals in Australia in all states except one.)
British Medical Association
http://www.bma.org.uk/ethics/consent_and_capacity/malecircumcision2006.jsp#Circumcisionformedicalpurposes
“to circumcise for therapeutic reasons where medical research has shown other techniques to be at least as effective and less invasive would be unethical and inappropriate.”
drops in male circumcision:
USA: from 90% to 57%
Canada: from 48% to 32%
UK: from 35% to about 5% (about 1% among non-Muslims)
Australia: 90% to 12.6% (“routine” circumcision has recently been *banned* in public hospitals in all states except one, so the rate will now be a lot lower)
New Zealand: 95% to below 3% (mostly Samoans and Tongans)
South America and Europe: never above 5%
It’s worth remembering that no-one except for Muslim and Jewish people would even be having this discussion if it weren’t for the fact that 19th century doctors thought that :
a) masturbation caused various physical and mental problems (including epilepsy, convulsions, paralysis, tuberculosis etc), and
b) circumcision stopped masturbation.
Both of those sound ridiculous today I know, but if you don’t believe me, then check out this link:
http://www.noharmm.org/docswords.htm
(they even passed laws against “self-pollution” as it was called). Over a hundred years later, circumcised men keep looking for new ways to defend the practice.
Comment by Lisa on Feb 17 2010 04:12:10:
my husband is not circ so my son is not and my son on the way will not be either. there is no point.
Comment by megan on Feb 17 2010 04:42:21:
I have two sons who are both circumcised and pregnant with my third baby, and will do it again if it is a boy. With my first born I was really torn about the choice. Coming from a conservative Christian background it helped that most of those in my circles have had their boys circumcised. But the final decision came when I spoke with my mother in law who owns and runs an assisted living home. She told me most of the older men when they get older she has to have them circumcised because they are unable to clean themselves and they are then highly prone to infections.
Either way you decide to go with, I think it is the right way for you and your family. Although I do not think that either way is evil or wrong.
In response:
“And, sexual sensation is reduced when the foreskin is removed, just the same as it when a girl is cut.”
This could be somewhat true, although sex for a man will last longer for him if he is a little desensitized and the wife will have more enjoyment as well. Sex is in no way painful for a man who is circumcised. However, when a girl is “circumcise” sex will be painful for her, as well as childbirth. These two “circumcisions” for the male and female cannot be compared as the levels of pain through out life is drastically different. A baby boy will feel pain at the time of circumcision and soreness for 24hrs to 72hrs.
“Be assure you that he is fully intact, the way god intended him to be. I cannot even begin to understand the incompetence and un-informed choices that people who mutilate their childern by way of circumcision are making.”
God did make him with foreskin, but God also had the covenant with Abraham to circumcise his household. But besides religious practices, circumcision is a very personal choice, one that each family must make for themselves based on their OWN personal beliefs, knowledge of medical history, and what’s best for their situation. This is not a choice that should be in anyway harassed. Sometimes when we can’t see the other side of the debate, especially in such private matters, so we get defense of our own choices by saying the other side is completely ridiculous. Keep an open mind and you may hear more sides of the story.
Comment by Kari on Feb 17 2010 05:32:17:
If I have a baby boy, my husband and I agreed that we will have our baby circumcised. It wasn’t even an issue that we had to really discuss, we just knew what we wanted, and what we think will be the best for our baby. When a baby boy is circumcised they are less likely to get an infection than ones that aren’t. Plus my parents decided to do the same for my brother and my husband is, so we get plenty of pros and cons, and the pros of having it done outweighs the cons.
Comment by Ann on Feb 17 2010 01:37:36:
I’m happy to see so many other moms feel the same way I do about this – it is mutilation & should be illegal! From all my reading on the topic, this wasn’t even thought about for non-religious reasons in this country prior to WWII. Why did the US make this a routine procedure? I am happy to see that the rate is dropping drastically throughout the world for babies – feel free to cut yourself when you are an adult!
Comment by Becky Richards on Feb 17 2010 02:26:23:
Those of you who are against this procedure OBVIOUSLY have little medical knowledge about the subject. This is a safe and HEALTHY practice. If you have ever worked in the medical profession you know that infection is extremely common in uncircumsized men (old and young). I was present and assisted in my sons circumcision and he showed no pain – he was happy as can be during the whole procedure. If a male has to have this done as an adult – which is often the case when parents do not make this decision at birth… it is a much more complicated and costly procedure.
Comment by stacy on Feb 17 2010 04:10:54:
My son was circumcised when he was born 2 years ago. It is a very safe and sanitary procedure. I think the decision is up to the parents, but I personaly would not ever change my decision to have it done. Not only does it not hurt the child in the long run, but it prevents infection and other health problems in the future. As long as the procedure is done soon after birth I do not see a problem wiht it. It is when the procedure is done later in life, like when the child is 2 or 3 yrs old that I feel that it is wrong. I feel that it would have more of a lasting memory on a child as a painful experience the older they get. But, again it is the parents choice.
Comment by Margaret on Feb 17 2010 05:54:49:
Both of my boys are intact. Here is the reason why:
http://theybelongtous.wordpress.com/2010/01/17/why-i-didnt-circumcise-my-boys/
peace…
Comment by Kathy on Feb 17 2010 06:37:12:
I was going to get my son circumcised before I researched it, but once I learned about it I felt it was wrong and its unnecessary and just because it the normal thing to do in our society doesn’t make it right. My son is intact and he is a healthy, happy baby. I felt like if he wants to get it done later that is his choice, but it doesn’t give me the right to remove the most sensitive part of his sex organ.
Comment by Jacob Duchaine on Feb 17 2010 09:04:54:
Yes, circumcision is wrong.
Even if it had health benefits, whether or not to remove healthy genital tissue from infants male or female is not a decision that a parent can ethically make for a child.
Virtually no one would argue in defense of female circumcision, which removes 8,000 or less nerve endings from the genitals of a daughter. But for whatever reason, people fervently defend their right to remove 15,000 nerves (More than 66% of all male genital nerves)from their sons.
People are so wrapped up in their own right to choose for their children, they forget that it should be the child’s choice. When he gets older, he can decide for himself whether or not to be circumcised. In the meantime, he’s more likely to get male breast cancer than Penile cancer, and children are very unlikely to get HIV, much less so from sex, and use of a condom will be much more effective than circumcision.
Castration reduces the chance of HIV by 99%, the chance of testicular cancer by 100%, is much more aesthetically pleasing than the wrinkled prune sack, is much easier to clean since there’s no testicles, and if some tissue is stored, the person will still be able to reproduce. And there are no studies proving that it reduces sexual satisfaction, either. This is an argument in favor of castrating infants? No, that’s silly. However, it’s identical to the pro-circumcision argument.
Comment by Restoring Tally on Feb 17 2010 10:32:40:
I was circumcised at birth and I do not like being circumcised. I and many other men are restoring our foreskins to undo the damage from being circumcised. Having a foreskin is a big improvement over being circumcised.
As a circumcised man, I wonder why there is even a decision to be made by parents. The baby is healthy. He will grow up to be a man. That man may, like me, prefer to be intact and have his full sex organ. His body, his choice.
Comment by Erin on Feb 24 2010 02:58:06:
This is a topic of personal choice. Chosing either option can lead to a healthy lifestyle. I see the rumors of circumcison being compared to mutilation, but you can NOT compare this procedure to female mutilation, which the purpose is to remove the parts that cause stimulation in females, in fear of infidelity and the degradation of women. There is also a higher risk of scarring, infection, mental issues, STD transmission and complications of vaginal childbirth in female genital mutilation. The sole purpose of male circumcision is to prevent infection, and does have benefits. For religious and historical purposes, living in the dessert way back and getting fine grains of sand that cause irritaion that lead to infection, let alone transmitting diseases, found it’s purpose of circumsicion for prevention.
I have never met a man, personally or professionally, who regrets or remembers having been circumcised as an infant, nor has any complaints on his sexual satisfaction. Circumcision not only prevents infections that can last a life time, but will also significantly reduce the risk of transmission of sexual diseases, especially HIV.
I HAVE personally known men who have NOT been circumcised, and had major, painful and chronic problems, that lead to surgery later in life. I have assisted many Pediatricians in circumcision, which seemed to be a quick, safe and simple procedure. The parents always seemed to be suffering more than the infant, just as in getting a rectal temp. or immunizations. It seems to be more of a mental thing for the parents, or something society has accepted to be wrong for some reason, not knowing ALL the facts in the first place. To decide on a few rare cases of complications being done at birth, rather than read about the complications of having the surgery later in life and why it needed to be done, might change the opinions. I can understand the parents pain for having to be the one to decide to do these procedures and put their little baby through this, but as a medical professional, I know and outweigh the benefits for a healthier life overall. I’m sure there are horror stories and complications, as in any surgical procedures. But having the surgery later in life, seems to be more of a tramatizing event, especially having to live their life with medical complications from infection, and then go through the surgery anyway that they will remember!
Comment by Miriam on Feb 26 2010 04:25:18:
As a Midwife, circumcision is a topic we discuss with our patients and give them hand outs so that they can make a decision. It is diffcult to discuss a topic that your not an advocate of, but you need to have both sides of the story. I have witness circumcision for those patients that wanted for their babies to be circumcised by a Rabbi priest. The difference from hospital and Rabbi sure make a difference. For those parents that are not Jewish but still desire it I would always recommend a Rabbi. They show compassion, they include the parents to comfort the baby, and there is no force used. In other words, If my husband was Jewish and feels very strongly about it, is so important for religious purpose I have to respect my husband wishes, a Rabbi would be the choice never a doctor or a hospital. Circumcision is not necessary, it is there for a reason, unless medically necessary leave it alone.
Comment by Virginia on Feb 28 2010 12:49:36:
I am very partial to circumcision for boys for two reasons:
Number one being that the foreskin traps many types of bacterias. By eliminating the foreskin, this can improve genital hygiene and really lowers the risk of disease-especially when it comes time for your son to become sexually active.
Number two being that my sons father was not circumcised as a infant, and had to deal with the consequences of his parents decision NOT to do it by having to get circumcised at 13 years old due to a condition called Phimosis, where the foreskin cannot be pulled back fully. He recalled it as being excruciatingly painful, and the only relief was to get circumcised. Apparently this happens in 1 out of 10 males. If he had been circumcised to begin with, he wouldn’t have had to go through this traumatic event at an older age, and certainly would have no memory of it.
Also, I also agree you cannot compare male and female circumcision-they are totally different for each sex.
Comment by Joshua on May 23 2010 06:25:51:
Also a side note i find it incredibly offensive that women would suggest to be in favor of male genital mutilation. Keep your knives off our penises ladies.
I don’t care that you think mutilated dried up and scarred genitals are more appealing to you. You obviously don’t give a rat’s behind about the man’s quality of life because you WOULD be considering the pleasure a foreskin gives if you did. It sounds like you “medical pros” are completely ignorant about the function of the foreskin and as such have absolutely 0 weight in talking about mutilating it.
As a man with a foreskin myself i wouldn’t cut it off for anything. Your sickening scare tactics havn’t pursuaded me to mutilate my genitalia to help you cope with the fact that you mutilated your own sons.
Circumcision is only EVER for the benefit of those who have committed this atrocity upon their children or had it committed upon themselves. It helps validate the maiming of the man’s sexuality.
The reality is the reasoning behind Male Genital Mutilation here and Female Genital Mutilation in Africa are almost exactly identical.
Africans mutilate their girls to help prevent infections.
We mutilate boys for the same reasons.
Africans mutilate their girls with the defense of “oh it will reduce her sex drive and prevent her from going sex crazy.
We mutilate our boys thinking “oh since the head of the penis will be less sensitive he will be able to last longer during sex and better please his woman”.
Africans mutilate their girls because it’s thought of as attractive.
We mutilate our boys for the same reasons.
Deny it all you want, People who mutilate their baby boys in hospitals are just as ignorant as people who do it in the bush.
Comment by Anna on May 23 2010 05:11:58:
The more research I do on this topic the more convinced I am that circumcision is a human rights issue… all people, male or female should have the right to choose for themselves whether or not to alter there genitals. Leave it alone and let your children decide for themselves. It’s their body, and should be their choice.
Comment by Lindsay on May 23 2010 05:14:33:
80% of the world is intact. In europe it is unheard of for men to be circumcised(except for relgious reasons). If circumcising is soooo much cleaner and healthier and intact is soo “dirty” and have all these infections, then why don’t we hear about European men having all these problems???? That is because the whole reducing infection things is myths. yes, some studies have shown it reduced UTI’s by 1%(yeah one whole percent), the side effects from circumcising are way higher. In Canada and Austrialla the circ rate is down to about 10%, we in the USA are the only country that carries out this procedure in such high numbers??? Why is this????
Comment by Lindsay on May 23 2010 05:17:16:
Phimosis can generally be treated with steriod cream and other procedures before jumping to circumcision. Doctors in the US, are just so surgery happy that they jump to this first. If after trying everything to fix phimosis and surgery is what needs to be done, then it will make it like EVERY other surgery in the US(not done until medically needed)
Comment by Erin on May 26 2010 03:11:11:
Circumcision isn’t wrong… INFANT circumcision is. If an adult male chooses to be circumcised, more power to him.
Babies, however, cannot be properly anesthetised, and blood loss is critical. They can’t consent, and the operation can’t be un-done. Google “botched circumcision” and you’ll be shocked at what you find. Over 100 babies DIED last year from complications of circumcision, from a cosmetic, unnecessary surgery that NO medical organization recommends for all babies.
Parents need to be informed of the real risks of this procedure, and aren’t. They are told it’s just a little snip, that it’s “normal” and beneficial, when in the rest of the world it’s unheard of.
If foreskins are so harmful, why aren’t European or Asian men lining up for circumcisions? 90% of men worldwide are NOT circumcised and have no problems at all. In Europe and Asia, they have lower STD rates. Lower UTI rates. Lower rates of erectile disfunction. Lower rates of HPV. If circumcision solves all of these problems, why do the numbers prove otherwise?
Comment by Jamie on Jun 18 2010 04:29:24:
I have to say, I am so disappointed with our culture if this is how we decide to communicate with one another. So disrespectful and petty. No one has any right to judge someone else for the decisions they make with their kids (obviously, there are situations where intervention is necessary, but this is not one of them). Circumcision is not abuse. It is a common practic, escpecially in our society and with specific religions. People need to open their minds and realize that.
I personally am choosing not to circumsize my son when he is born in a couple months, but that does not mean i am going to throw a tub of red paint on every other woman who decides to. Lets start acting a little more adult, respect other people’s opinions, and just agree to disagree. Do what you want with your kids, leave others to raise them the way they want.
Comment by jennifer on Jun 18 2010 08:15:10:
My husband and I decided to circumcised our son and don’t regret it one bit. I think this is a personal decision a family should make. Who are you to judge those who do or don’t? To the women calling us “ignorant” you are the one acting like it by being so disrespectful. I am very informed on both sides and understand both sides. But again it comes back to being a personal choice. There are so many things in this world that are immoral that are worse than this. And you can’t compare mens circumcision to female mutilation. They are two totally different things.its really sad that this is suppose to be a forum for moms to feel comfortable and a safe haven to discuss these issues and some of you take these issues to the extreme and make it uncomfortable for others to chime in. We are all adults let act like it, no need for name calling or belittling.
Comment by Sabrina on Jun 19 2010 12:57:46:
I did circumcise my son! I don’t really know why just because my sisters did their sons I guess! My son was in no visible pain and came home the day of the circumcision with no fussiness other than normal newborns. But I have no regrets and would do it all over again!
Comment by GKS on Jul 26 2010 06:04:18:
This needs to be a safehaven for child mutilators? What about being a safehaven for innocent children who will grow up to be angry men for having 66% of the feeling in their penis removed? If it is so necessary, I suggest that both men and women circumcise themselves before laying the knife to someone that will in all likelyhood not be happy with this choice being made for them.
Comment by cess on Aug 17 2010 01:45:23:
circumcision is not only religiouys but also hygenic.A curcimcised penis is more apealing in bed as it is very clean.When the procedure is done by an expert its not painful! it also reducesthe chences of contracting HIV!
Comment by Patricia Robinett on Aug 07 2011 05:05:57:
This “decision” is a false one. It is untrue that circumcision is a ‘decision’ that mothers have to make. It is a very odd culture that makes this a problem for parents. Most cultures just let the baby be as he was made, created. There is no need to alter a healthy child. The distress over this question is unnecessary. Just let him be. He is perfect as he is. Nature is not very stupid… but humans can be foolish when they underestimate nature’s wisdom and design.
Comment by John R. on Aug 07 2011 07:36:15:
A parent choosing to circumcise their child is wrong. Whether you think it is right or not, you are removing a part of someone else’s body before they can consider whether or not they want it done. If you justify your choice with medical reasons you are still wrong. It is not the same as having a diseased body part removed and no one has died from having a foreskin yet boys die every year because their parents are “think they know best.” Yes you can get painful conditions caused by the foreskin, but removing it is a bad remedy. We don’t remove toenails to prevent them from becoming ingrown now do we? When it comes down to circumcision in the USA parents are prejudiced against foreskin, its something evil that just shouldn’t be there and an intact penis is a bad penis. Health care professionals make a terribly unethical choice when they decide to encourage parents to have their baby circumcised. You hear of women who think an uncircumcised penis is unattractive and that’s just fine and dandy. But how would people react if a man said he didn’t like women who had anything but the cleanest genitals? Many folks would get upset and claim he hates women yet somehow in our country its just fine to have your baby strapped down and have a functional part of HIS body removed. How would you react to someone having their baby tattooed? And even if you believe it is in the best interest of your child you are in the wrong and are are not doing anyone a favor. His parent or not, you CANNOT decide if he will like being circumcised. IF he wants it later he can have it done but it can never be undone. God how I wish it could so I could move on with my life.
Comment by Aniya on Aug 08 2011 11:31:30:
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but the only one that should matter is the owner of the genitalia that would be altered. No one should be forced to be circumcised, let them become adults and make the decision involving their own body. Human rights is not a hard concept people.
Comment by Catch Twenty-Two on Apr 25 2012 11:51:20:
Daphne= your opinions are right on! I wish my mom had the courage to stand up against the BS practice. I agree with the excuses… But with the religion excuse being applied to girls, in the USA it is illegal to cut up a girl even for a religious purpose! DO NOT APOLOGIZE for protecting all male babies, when a female baby is being harmed, everyone speaks up about the injustice, but when it’s a male being harmed it is a “parent’s choice”.
Alice= First please read it all you will find that your son could possibly have the same view. The one problem I have come to find is that when you question anything the Jewish religion does, you’re automatically anti-Semitic and that you’re picking on them, and I feel you have adopted this defense mechanism they have. I would like to point out that since you are not Jewish (since u said your husband was and you didn’t say that you were) the baby boy isn’t a Jew as the mother must be.
You seem to be ready to cry, this is a clear sign that you know what you allowed was wrong…. Be defensive all you want, I can’t believe the BS coming out of your mouth! I was told the same BS growing up. The thought of a religion that abuses boys is not right. You seem to be an intelligent woman and it shocks me that you would believe the lies and the BS that the Jewish religion gives, I can’t believe that solely because I was born a male I was being cut up, for a religion that was NOT mine, and that if I was born a girl, I would have been simply given a Hebrew name, this is some sick BS, welcome to the world son, now drop your diaper! You probably figured out I was born to a Jewish family, and I was cut up. I am NOT a Jew as in the way your “husband” is, but I am a Jew by race, and the practice that the Jewish religion of cutting up a kid makes my blood boil…… Do you know that baby boys have DIED because of the cutting, infection and blood loss… I am assuming you at least, gave your son a bris, (since your husband is a Jew) You invited your family and friends, you undressed your son in front of everyone, then he is pinned down, drugged via alcohol, then his penis was destroyed in front of everyone, so his right to privacy is gone since everyone is watching, then everyone knows what abuse was done to him. Also since this was a “religious” ceremony, it was okay for the mohel to abuse your son, meaning that (since this was not mentioned) if the wound did not bleed naturally, the mohel would have used his mouth to SUCK the wound to get it to bleed. (YES this does happen and yes it is LEGAL) and baby boys have DIED from the STD’s you claim to be protecting him from. For the non-religious hospital type abuse the studies you mentioned are flawed, the BS the “doctors” give, think about it, if they are making money, 1- charging you to butcher your son then 2- selling the stolen foreskin to research labs and cosmetic companies and the easy cash flow is in danger of ending, of course they are going to make up some BS to keep the practice alive so they can make their BMW car payments. There is no benefit of reduced penile cancer, or STD’s, these studies were made to convince other nations to start cutting up their boys. But then tell them not to cut up their girls yet the reasons for cutting both genders are completely the same. I can’t believe you are laughing, if it was you being cut up you would not be laughing. It is funny how you say it’s hard to give an opinion when your opinion has already been mocked by someone else, same goes if you started the conversation, and spoke of your hatred of a foreskin, wouldn’t the person responding to you feel mocked? If so why is it okay for you to mock but it not to be okay for you to BE mocked? Think about your husband, he was brainwashed into the religion and its mandate on male mutilation. Do you think he would admit that his “manhood” is not adequate or is lacking due to the loss of 20,000 nerve endings? You don’t know how they say it’s reducing pleasure? How did they know female cutting reduced pleasure, they did the unbiased study and it is what they need to do with males (without any Jewish funding so the bias isn’t bought) ….
Maggie= Thank you! You’re a mother that got the fact that they want to cut up a helpless infant, so the boy cannot object at that age and when he grows up he cannot change it back (to original) other than a faux foreskin with foreskin restoration. It is the same as female cutting no matter what Alice says… If you won’t cut your girl you should NOT cut your boy!
Comment by Nathaniel Hirst on Oct 26 2012 08:25:03:
OF COURSE ITS WRONG!
there is NO reason to do it to him before he has a choice! If he wants it done he can have it done as an adult.